tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post287157545237237568..comments2024-01-26T11:43:48.054-08:00Comments on Career Limiting Moves: Blatant Ripoff or "Homage"?Zachariah Wellshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02241595894807722933noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-17562316666329993392010-03-03T19:22:48.722-08:002010-03-03T19:22:48.722-08:00Hmmm... looks like he's a crook and I wasted a...Hmmm... looks like he's a crook and I wasted a good amount of my (not terribly) precious time hypothetically defending him. Bah!Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06507320627534702508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-59323883861224237642010-02-23T11:27:58.292-08:002010-02-23T11:27:58.292-08:00If this is as it appears, there's no possible ...If this is as it appears, there's no possible justification for it. It is appalling. And while Collins is a sort of sleepy reader, his "performance" is far better than SK's ridiculous mugging and pandering. What pained me most about his well-seasoned performance of that mawkish piece of nationalistic self-congratulation at the Olympics is that most people watching will now thinkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-35698887789954810292010-02-22T09:39:31.148-08:002010-02-22T09:39:31.148-08:00I have to say my wife and heard him do the same pi...I have to say my wife and heard him do the same piece at a music festival on Vancouver Island last summer. No mention of Collins.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-82973012138150249762010-02-17T13:36:43.468-08:002010-02-17T13:36:43.468-08:00Thief!Thief!B. Glen Rotchinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05815057617780242871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-23713775576230466082010-02-17T13:20:58.657-08:002010-02-17T13:20:58.657-08:00He is doing a stand up cover and it is alright, no...He is doing a stand up cover and it is alright, not great but alright. The original from Mr. Collins was not well read and could have used an infusion of energy - maybe if he had a red bull or two instead of the double hit of Valium?<br /><br />;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-63443856404313606162010-02-15T22:50:24.754-08:002010-02-15T22:50:24.754-08:00Having seen Koyzcan perfrom "the Lanyard"...Having seen Koyzcan perfrom "the Lanyard" I was quite shocked to see this... he made no mention that the poem was by Billy Collins and presented it as his own to an audience of hundreds of people who paid close to 30 dollars a head to hear this cover. Pretty lame. I honestly thought it was Koyzcan's poem until I saw this post.Blakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-34553699587177696852010-02-14T17:39:06.379-08:002010-02-14T17:39:06.379-08:00Rob, in all of those cases you're talking righ...Rob, in all of those cases you're talking rights have been requested, granted and paid for. In cases in which that hasn't happened, judges have indeed had to decide what constitutes fair use sampling and what's a ripoff.<br /><br />I'm glad to see that SK apologized for not acknowledging the author. It was a classy thing to do, even if his cut and paste treatment of the poem was Zachariah Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241595894807722933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-51957090537882709332010-02-14T16:03:37.127-08:002010-02-14T16:03:37.127-08:00Yikes, call off the hounds, already! It's a mo...Yikes, call off the hounds, already! It's a modified cover. Sometimes, apparently, Mr. Koyczan neglects mid-show to credit it, but has already been shamed and done his mea culpa:<br /><br />http://archive.wordsaloud.ca/wa5/news/wa5_eletter_1.pdf<br /><br />Much more grave, I think, is the charge of Plagiarism-of-our-method-for-scoring-easy-nationalist-points that Molson <br />(remember "petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-73886390330570770462010-02-14T14:24:08.003-08:002010-02-14T14:24:08.003-08:00I agree that if it were my poem I'd prefer it ...I agree that if it were my poem I'd prefer it to be read as I intended, but that doesn't mean that chopping off the first part (and a few other lines along the way) and adding a new opening isn't sampling, just that it's not sampling to your tastes (or, as I indicated earlier, mine). <br /><br />And if you don't like calling it "sampling", then "covering" Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665014479408292254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-59676220795716399892010-02-14T13:53:52.242-08:002010-02-14T13:53:52.242-08:00This wasn't "sampling"; he removed C...This wasn't "sampling"; he removed Collins' beginning, substituted his own and otherwise simply reproduced the poem. I have no issue with people mashing up, sampling, or simply reading someone else's poem. But I don't know of anyone who would want to have their poem edited for the purposes of someone else's performance the way SK does with BC's here. All he did Zachariah Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241595894807722933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-78155620880115528402010-02-14T12:37:56.401-08:002010-02-14T12:37:56.401-08:00Now you're sounding like a guy who thinks rap ...Now you're sounding like a guy who thinks rap isn't music because of all the sampling.<br /><br />If he gives credit (which we can't prove one way or another), do you really think he should be sending Collins a cheque for using it at a live performance?<br /><br />If so, I owe Al Purdy's estate way more than my A-Frame Donations currently cover...Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03665014479408292254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-46222084021567798072010-02-14T11:39:01.953-08:002010-02-14T11:39:01.953-08:00Agreed, Rob. Koyczan's hamming is pitched beyo...Agreed, Rob. Koyczan's hamming is pitched beyond the back row. As for whether he ripped it off or paid for the rights to partially disassemble and appropriate Collins' poem, who knows? Given the showmanship of his routine, I'm going to guess that he'd rather leave seams covered.Zachariah Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241595894807722933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-35833116096081820852010-02-14T11:14:31.929-08:002010-02-14T11:14:31.929-08:00Well, the Koyczan clip doesn't include what wa...Well, the Koyczan clip doesn't include what was said immediately before or after, so he very well could have been clear about everything - which is what I'd assume considering how blatant the "borrowing" is. If not, it's like buying a term paper off the internet, and as easily detectable...<br /><br />The more interesting question to me is "Which performance did you Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06507320627534702508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-84133556060754205442010-02-14T11:01:03.040-08:002010-02-14T11:01:03.040-08:00He didn't acknowledge Collins!? I was assumin...He didn't acknowledge Collins!? I was assuming he did in there, somewhere, and it was cut off. If he didn't, that's nasty work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-32703481659830779522010-02-14T10:54:52.816-08:002010-02-14T10:54:52.816-08:00After paying for the rights and acknowledging the ...After paying for the rights and acknowledging the original writer--and without modifying the lyrics.Zachariah Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02241595894807722933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31341356110251854.post-82227186831837371452010-02-14T10:40:42.130-08:002010-02-14T10:40:42.130-08:00I don't get it - isn't he just doing a cov...I don't get it - isn't he just doing a cover, kind of like an established band would do a Hendrix song as an encore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com